That was all before my time I believe (which explains why my number ID is 7XXXX), but yes I have had a number of others fill be in on the genesis of the debate forums. None of which explains how SOME of those forums really relate back to natural and alternative health and healing, but I suppose I can imagine how they could have been topics some posters wanted to interject into support forums and thus were created as a place to air out those kind of topics.