Re: middle eastern, greeks, meditereaneans prove liver flush

 I've taken Epsom Salts (magnesium) exactly one in my life, about 4 years ago.

When I did Sutter's flush I took no magnesium compound whatsoever. This was the flush that resulted in normalization of bowel movement colour. The colour is back to normal and has stayed so for one year.

Why is it people hear what they want to hear instead of what was actually said?  I never said the stool color change was from the magnesium.  What I said is that the brown color is from the bile.  And what did I say stimulates the bile release?  Not the magnesium, but rather the oil.

I don't care if what I discharged were official "gallstones" or "intrahepatic stones" or little marbles somebody threw into the toilet or magic thingies produced by faith.

Fine, you don't care.  That is pretty obvious since again you hear what you want to hear to rationalize the quackery.  But there are people who do care, and people need to be aware that these "flushes" can land them in the hospital for emergency surgery if they lodge a real gallstone.  So don't you care enough about people's health and safety to make them aware of this danger?

If people "feeling better" (a pretty broad term) were caused by magnesium salts the good feeling would not last very long. Maybe a few days & that's it.

How do you know that for sure.  You did not even know the reason people feel better until I pointed out one of the reasons to you.  And people who are in to this quackery do the flushes pretty regularly from what I have seen on the forums.   Considering the fact that it takes quite a while for real  gallstones to grow why would they have to do these "flushes" so frequently since one flush should last many months if they were really expelling true gallstones?

It is a big, big mistake to think that science, that's YOU, sir, and faith are somehow at the opposite ends of the spectrum. What scientists see is determined by their own faith, a faith they won't own up to. If something must not be, it cannot be, and they cast things aside.

People had faith in Jim Jones as well, and most of them ended up dead.  Faith is not always backed by fact.  That is why it is faith.  It is a belief in something unproven.

Sorry, but there's quackery in science-based medicine, also.

Yes, I totally agree.  In fact I have written on it extensively and even produced videos on it.  But I am glad to see you said "also" .  This shows you agree with me and  you are admitting that this is quackery.  So we are finally making some progress.

I recall reading that the Dr. who invented lobotomy as a cure of mental illness actually got a Nobel Prize for it - is this true? I think it was a Portuguese Dr...

I would not be surprised.  But that really has nothing to with the topic anyway.