Re: when I read your statement...

>>"it is the men who encourage women to wear push up bras and put on make up

they complain about women who don't"<<

what kind of men do that?

perhaps you are associating with the wrong kind of man.

give me no make up, generic jeans and a no name collar shirt, t-shirt or tank... perhaps a sun dress on a nice spring day.

make up turns me off - so do labels, fancy dress and heals, etc. etc.

I see phony people.

grz-