Re: Lyme Disease Cured by Colloidal Silver

RE: ...I have no way of analysing it and analysis is likely to cost a lot of money and without that I think it would provide less information than details about the generation process that you used to make it. 
I think you misunderstood. The intent was to make use of the solution so that you could decide whether or not you'd like to invest in this particular process method.

Okay thanks for clarifying.

RE: Does it have any control of current via a potentiometer etc?
I prefer to use current regulating diodes personally as my electrode configuration(size/distance etc) is part of a fixed setup. Though it wouldn't be very difficult to add a potentiometer to the design if need be.

Okay, therefore is the current at a fixed and constant rate in your device like it seems from what you say about using a current regulating diode? Another design I have uses a comparator to monitor the current and maintain a constant current level as the resistance decreases as the amount of silver increases. Do you know what current flows between the electrodes? This seems crucial to the ionic silver and particle size. It does seem that it is the particle size which makes the biggest difference as smaller particles provide a larger surface area which provides the greatest benefit. Ionic silver by comparison is largely ineffective as it reacts with chlorides within the body, in particular the stomach which would render it pretty much useless. As I understand it Ions are more effective for topical use where chlorides are not present but inside the body there are a lot of chlorides which make them far less effective.

RE: Does it have some form of stirrer
The answer is yes, as a stirrer is an integral part of the successful production of Colloidal Silver solutions. - for the dispersion of ions from the boundary layer of the anode 

 

RE:  and if so what method does it use?
I personally prefer the use of a magnetic stirrer for its simplicity and effectiveness. Though the use of a mechanical stirrer is also possible with the addition of having to contain the solution during processing(for cross contamination etc).

PS. the worst possible scenario in this particular case would be the use of air(bubbler etc). If not only for its severely limited effect in terms of dispersion, but more so for the addition of the cross-contamination due to the introduction of oxygen(enrichment) in the solution. Which in-turn, promotes the production of silver oxides and further destabilization.

I do prefer the method that you have used. A magnetic stirrer does seem the best method and I dislike the bubble methods employed by thesilveredge.com device for the reasons that you state. I think that maybe he saw that as the answer to being able to produce larger batches but I dislike it.

RE: what voltage level for generation does it use?
I run my own setup at 42v DC so that I can keep the cell within optimal load from start to finish. Keeping in mind that the voltage in this particular case is merely a carrier for the current(potential) as it is the current that does all of the work. 

That said, the efficiency of the cell can be achieved by monitoring the voltage drop between the electrodes during processing. This allows to observe and ensure that the process is running at optimum potential(load wise). - which is an integral part in the production of consistent nano particulates(shape/size).

What made you decide on 42V DC? What are you using to provide that 42V DC? The particle size does seem to be crucial to effective colloidal silver. Smaller particles seem most effective. thesilveredge.com claims that their device can make particles as small as 0.8nm which is fairly small, not quite as small as products professionally made by MesoSilver but still very close if what they say is true. Do you think that their claims are possible? I am sure that we all know how marketing often make false claims knowing that it is difficult to disprove. MesoSilver prices are very high and I wouldn't want to be purchasing much at those kind of prices. What I would like is something which works well, gets results but isn't too expensive. A DIY approach appeals but it has to work and work well. I am attempting to beat a biofilm in my stomach which is very difficult to overcome. Stomach acid will convert Silver ions so silver particles of small sizes are essential. That is why I asked the questions I have as the design I have ATM does seem a bit deficient in that respect and uses fairly high currents of around 10mA. I do not see production time as being as important as quality. I need to give it maximum chance of success.

RE: ATM I am trying to find a design that does what I need, as all so far have proved deficient in one way or another.
Perhaps I can help. ie, can you elaborate further as to what your partricular needs are?

I would like something which works effectively, produces the smallest possible particle sizes that are possible at home without spending large sums of money on professional equipment. Being able to adjust the current would be beneficial as I might be using it for multiple purposes both internally and externally. Versatility would be an appealing feature. Your design seems to rely on a current limiting diode to control the current through the circuit. I can see a problem with this method in that polarity reversal would be very difficult if using a diode where current can only travel in one direction. I did notice another post of yours about 13 months back where there was mention by you and another poster about build up on the electrodes which indicates that you do not use polarity reversal which can combat that problem. A current limiting diode is a simple solution but I think that it has some limitations with regard to the electrodes.

I noticed that you mention heating the distilled water in the thread. What benefit does this give? Does it affect Silver Ions, get rid of them or prevent them from forming?

I am still trying to learn as much as I can about this before I begin so that I do not make any mistakes and end up with something which does not work in a satisfactory way.

I would like something which provides polarity reversal, current adjustment so that variable particle size is possible and being able to produce the smallest particles that I can. However that certainly complicates matters as I do not have a circuit that will do that ATM. The one that I do have does much of it except for the current adjustment and the circuit designer did state that a different comparitor might be needed for lower currents. It's a question of how low such a comparitor can go and what range they could operate to.

I am attempting to treat a condition which I have limited information, ie the bacteria is unidentified, I know it is not helicobacter pylori and I believe it is gram negative and shares many properties with helicobacter pylori but apart from that there are many unknowns. I do not know how effective colloidal silver will be in the presence of a biofilm which is designed to eliminate toxins to prevent the bacteria from becoming harmed. I did read on thesilveredge.com that the guy there claims that he suffered from extreme fatigue and he claims that colloidal silver eliminated the problem but marketing and false claims do not count for much IMO.

www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp

Thank you very much for your help so far, you have been an inspiration and excellent source of information both in this thread and your other thread posts.