It seems like sometimes I don't get all the messages when I go to this site. Or somehow I miss them. Anyway I just saw this one. Thanks for the information. I think I'm going to request this for my birthday.
That's pretty weird with the ornithine. Maybe you got a bad bottle or it reacts weird with your body. The kidney pain might be just because you have been doing all these other cleansing things and your body is trying to flush out more than your kidneys can handle. Also the ornithine is supposed to help you digest so maybe it's digesting too much for your stomach. Not sure if that is possible or not. Just trying to help you figure out why. I'm glad you found the cd though.