Re: ..on methionine/betaine - EDIT

>> plus drinking raw beet juice and eating beets

Wheren't beets high in Fluoride???

>> would I need more TMG too
Dunno, but TMG is superior to Betaine...

Here is what worked for ALL of us in the HCL department.
Fix methylation cycle (TMG+Chealation+BVits), take cayenne with meals (40k HU) and at least 1/8 tsp of EXTRA salt per meal.

Easy way is to take your salt flush stuff just before eating, this helps HCL production so does the cayenne, but not much works if the methylation cycle is busted.

EDIT
"EPA is revoking tolerances in 40 CFR 180.145 for residues of fluorine compounds cryolite and synthetic cryolite (sodium aluminum fluoride) in or on beets, ..."

http://www.fluoridealert.org/pesticides/cryolite--page.htm