Re: Holy $#_+ !!!

Lawnmowers?  Lawnmowerman I fear you have gone into decline, as you have once again provided the instruments of your own undoing. Clearly, the training and human practice that must accompany the scientific methodology and procedures must be part and parcel of the overall body of mainstream medicine.  In any industry, it is both the science and the application of that science that combine to make up the efficacy of that industry.

I understand, given your "Today's Science is My God" bias, that you would like to lay the blame for all the the deaths and harm caused  by "procedures and methods that science provides that makes medicine and treatment so realiable and efficacious" (you mean such things as chemo and radiation?) at the feet of flawed mortals (too close to nature for you?) and leave almightly science perfect and untarnished.  If science is so perfect, why is it that over 95% of the medicines they have made have side effects?  Because of the human error of the human body?

And why, does one suppose, is it that while over two-thirds of all Ameriocans now take natural supplements, and almost 75% of doctors themselves report taking supplements, is it that there are such miniscule harmful events and deaths from natural supplements and such horrnedous figures from the drugs almighty science has provided?  Human error again?

I grant you that doctors are humans, but until sicence provides us with perfect robots, they are part of mainstream medicine too.  Sorry, but it all goes together.

The facts you wish to ignore:

here are some of the statistics and death rate estimates from various reports:

• 42% of people believed they had personally experienced a medical mistake (NPSF survey)
• 44,000 to 98,000 deaths annually from medical errors (Institute of Medicine)
• 225,000 deaths annually from medical errors including 106,000 deaths due to "non*error adverse events of medications" (Starfield)
• 180,000 deaths annually from medication errors and adverse reactions (Holland)
• 20,000 annually to 88,000 deaths annually from nosocomial infections
• 2.9 to 3.7 percent of hospitalizations leading to adverse medication reactions
• 7,391 deaths resulted from medication errors (Institute of Medicine)
• 2.4 to 3.6 percent of hospital admissions were due to (prescription) medication events (Australian study)

Source: the very mainstream cureresearch.com

Your concluding statement that "in most cases Alt-Med treatment is about effective as drinking water the most reasonable conclusion would be that it was a self-terminating disease." speaks volumes of not only your bias, but also your utter lack of knowledge or understanding when it comes to nature and the human body.

Water happens to be the most powerful natural healer on the planet, one almost all life, including us imperfect humans, depends on.  It is water in fact that is at the core of a great deal, if not most, of the natural healing that has taken place in Chris's life.

Insofar as the mistake you say I made and admitted, I do not specifically recall what you are referring to, but I will readily admit to having made mistakes and having admitted to doing so.  Can you say the same?

Sorry, C, but your arguments just don't hold water.

DQ