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"Jesus is the ONE and ONLY savior for our sins."

John 14:6 does not say that Jesus is a savior or that he is the one and only savior. I agree with that passage. It says that he has shown us a path, and we have to walk that path. We walk the road ourselves, with help from him, god and others.

John 14:6 (The Message) Jesus said, "I am the Road, also the Truth, also the Life. No one gets to the Father apart from me.

If you go on to John 14:12 you will also see that anyone who follows the path he took can do the same things, and even greater, in spite of what all the guilt, fear, and death peddlers tell you.

John 14:12 I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

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