liver flush and blind faith

Dangerous Goods, both you and johng are trying to deny what is plain as the hand in front of your face. Once again you employ a risible grasp of the scientific method to avoid the obvious conclusion of the Lancet paper. If you can really make some valid criticisms of the Lancet paper please present them - if not put up and shut up!

You seem to have a fixation with this idea of controls and gold standards. Please go and read some scientific books before making the same mistake again and again. I have not changed from talking about the gold standard to the scientific approach! You are taking liberties now, misquoting me. Rather dishonest in fact.

So don't try and pull the wool over the eyes of the readers DP!